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May. 17th, 2012 @ 02:06 pm Pools Done!
And it went from sixty nine degrees to seventy nine in five days!

I also got the handicap lift installed so the next project is to put a shower stall in the pool house along with a toilet, sink and changing bench, and put a door over the pump room.

I picked up twenty pieces of half inch BC sanded on one side plywood to cover the walls since it is generally a damp type area witht eh well and all the plumbing for the pool in there, so a leak can flood the place pretty quick.

I planned ahead years before I started build my home, cause we owned the house next door at the time and wanted the pool on this lot instead of the one we were in since we had it up for sale. I wanted the well and pool house slab done before they set the level of the deck cause I didn't trust them to set it at the right level so my back drive didn't slop towards the house or away from it really steep. and I didn't want stairs even though Mary a long way from being in a wheelchair back then.

I used a hose with clear tubes on each end of it to measure back from where my septic would be down to the height of the bottom floor, and from there down to the pool deck.

I had to set the pool house itself up two stairs cause the lot slopes so much and the way I needed the drive to go it would have been in a pit or my berm wouldn't have held up in the long run or the pool house would get flooded, but I plumbed the sewer lines in and stobbed them off for the shower and all, and did the same thing for the sprinklers, water to the house and the pool power and even a hardwired internet connectiong LOL.

I used to have to run my pump fourteen hours a day to keep it clean then did some research since my pump was fried and discovered it was undersized, and needs a horse and a half minimum, so I leaned towards the bigger and got a two horse unit, then redid the plumbing so when the three inch and a half return lines converged they go up to a two inch line and a short hop to the pump intake, and ran two inches out to the filter and you can see the difference just by looking at the skimmers really pulling in the water.

We got some rain and I had to drain an inch of water out and it did it in eight minutes, so doing some math in my head I should be able to circulate thirty thousand gallons of water in seven to eight hours which will make a big difference in the power bill.

Pool truthfully are a pain to have hahhaha, but this will benefit Mary and I am working in my head on a firepit Redneck style pool heater by placing coiled stainless pipe inside a plate steel box, filling it with fine sand blasting sand to act as a thermal battery, using some really heavy guage sheet metal I have to cap it then build a fire pit out of plate steel and welding the box and pipe in the center, running a length of stainless up hill to the pool because I will put this behind the pool and pretty close to being as low as the pool bottom.

Without needing a chimney I'll be able to burn most anything including pine which my wife is not allergic to the smoke of, but is from Oak, and when I get to the pool deck edge I'll rig up some one inch car heater hose to a disconnect, add in a thermal switch and a hotwater pump I just happen to have, and I have an power outlet right where it will be located so I can just plug it in.

If I run one length of heater hose to the top of the pool and a longer one to the bottom the water will circulate even if it doesn't get hot enough to trip the pump, so I'll even be able to burn leaves in it and get free heat.

Having a pine tree farm is a big plus to! I have an endless supply of pine and it needs thinned so I can spend a day up there and bring home enough to have a week long bonfire.

The woodburner styled pool heaters that have a regular size fire box, but need to have a flue and be mounted indoor claim to put out four hundred thousand BTU's which would raise the pool water a degree an hour so I think even though this isn't as efficient it will be way more practical since I always burn tree limbs and such when I am sprucing up the yard or the lot next door, and my neighbor has so many trees in his yard that he will fill my pick up to the roof three times with bagged leaves I usually burn next door for him, but would make for a good three days smoulding pile of heat every spring to wake the pool up after getting cool in the winter...

Redid the Plumbing!

Handicap Lift!
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From:(Anonymous)
Date:May 25th, 2012 08:58 pm (UTC)
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It's looking good. I am always amazed at the speed that you can go through these projects. I like the idea of a wood/brush fired pool heater, it seems like the designing and building would be really interesting. This idea is completely crazy to use for a pool but maybe for some sort of lab apparatus but I just had an idea that I have to get out. I would use a copper or steel pressure vessel filled via a check valve at the bottom of the pool (so constantly full), heated by a fire from below, until the pressure of the water in the vessel triggered a release valve to a system of copper pipes leading to openings in the bottom of the pool. Warm or hot (depending on the pressure required to trip the valve [PV=nRT and all that]) water would then jet from the openings until the valve closed again. With a roaring fire the water entering the pressure vessel would boil fairly quickly until the valve just remained open. I suppose there would have to be some sort of safety mechanism to prevent scalding water or steam from making it to the pool (unless you were trying to heat it quickly).

Happy memorial day weekend.
RT
From:Randall Million
Date:May 26th, 2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
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I found this Instructable just before I found yours on heating water in the attic. Looks like it might work.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Wood-Burning-Pool-Heater/
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From:senseless
Date:May 27th, 2012 10:43 am (UTC)
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Pretty cool!

I'm on instructables to....

user name is Senseless
From:Randall Million
Date:May 27th, 2012 02:25 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I found your blog via your Instructable about trucking 3 tons of sand to the attic for a heat transfer medium.
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From:senseless
Date:June 1st, 2012 11:15 am (UTC)
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Five gallon buckets at a time LOL.

I want to redo that project someday, my water has a very lo Ph and has corroded the copper pipe so it would leave green stains under the faucets, so I have it bypassed for now, but the sand mix I made will crumble easy enough I can chip it apart and start over.

I'm thinking two 30 gallon well tanks in series, reburied with the sand will work better, so at least I don't have to lift 6000 pounds 12 feet again....
From:Randall Million
Date:June 2nd, 2012 10:29 am (UTC)
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I remember seeing them talk about this system (or a similar system) on Ask This Old House which could solve the issues without chipping everything out: http://www.aceduraflo.com/
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From:senseless
Date:June 2nd, 2012 11:44 am (UTC)
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I think I'd get better heat transfer with tanks cause the water goes though the coil so fast it picks up the temps but not to nearly the temp of the rock.

That a great ling though for another house I have as a rental so I bookmarked it.

It is plumbed with steel pipes set in concrete and I am having some flow and corrosion problems over there.

Thanks!
From:(Anonymous)
Date:June 18th, 2012 07:53 pm (UTC)
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Here is another opotin, will retrofit to any electric boiler and manufactured by Econergy in New Zealand. We could supply this unit with 115V/60Hz compressor or possibly DC compressor if there was demand for this product in USA.Cheers, David
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From:senseless
Date:June 18th, 2012 08:18 pm (UTC)
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Send me one gratius, I'll photograph and film it's installation which I'll do myself, then make you a vid and upload it to my You Tube channel, Plus blog your site's links!

Bwahahahahaha!
From:(Anonymous)
Date:June 19th, 2012 12:16 pm (UTC)
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We were following you along the blog and are so glad you are doing betetr today. Hope and pray each day brings good news and lasting conditions. We miss you Gene and look for your return soon. Congratulations on the new grand child I know you and Sandra are happy with that. Nothing like Grandchildren, I guess thats why they are called Grand . Bye for now.
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From:senseless
Date:June 19th, 2012 04:08 pm (UTC)
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Phishing?